Hello. Thanks for having me on the show. I've been investigating classified government projects for over fifteen years now. I've looked into Area 51, I've researched Montauk, I've gone down every rabbit hole you can imagine. And I'm telling you right now, there's one case that keeps me up at night. One case I keep coming back to, again and again, because I genuinely believe this man was telling the truth. And I think they killed him for it. His name was Frank Snyder. He was a geological engineer and explosives expert who claimed he worked on deep underground military bases for the United States government. He said he held a Level 3 security clearance, something called Rhyolite 38. His father was a Navy captain who worked in nuclear medicine, supposedly helped design the first nuclear submarines. Frank wasn't some random guy off the street making stuff up. He had credentials. He had connections. And he had scars. In August of 1979, Frank was part of a drilling operation in Dulce, New Mexico. Now, if you don't know Dulce, it's a tiny town on the Jicarilla Apache Reservation, up near the Colorado border. Population maybe 2,600 people. Doesn't even have a traffic light. But according to Frank, underneath that quiet little desert town, underneath a flat-topped mountain called Archuleta Mesa, there's something that changes everything we think we know about this world.
So here's what Frank said happened. 3 clearance is serious stuff - Ryan' His team was drilling four large shafts as part of what they were told was a government construction project. Standard procedure for building underground facilities. They'd done it before at other sites. But something was different at Dulce. When they started drilling, black sooty air came rushing up from the holes. The smell was terrible, like burning garbage mixed with something else, something organic. The drill bits kept breaking on something down there. Equipment was failing left and right. Frank noticed something else that made him nervous. There were Special Forces soldiers all over the camp. Green Berets, Black Berets, the kind of military presence you don't see on a standard construction project. He started to get the feeling that this wasn't just another base they were building. Something else was going on. The higher ups sent Frank down into one of the shafts to assess the situation with the broken equipment. He went down maybe two miles, descending through that hole into the earth. And when he got down there, when he stepped off that platform into the darkness, he came face to face with something that would haunt him for the rest of his life.
Frank said he found himself standing just feet away from what he called a large grey. The creature was about seven feet tall, with grayish skin. But the first thing that hit him was the smell. He said the stench was worse than the worst garbage can you could imagine. Just absolutely horrible. The entity was standing right there, looking at him. Now, Frank always carried a pistol on him, even during work. He fumbled for that gun and managed to shoot two of the beings. But there was a third one. Before Frank could react, this creature made a circular motion with its hand, waving it in front of its chest. And then a blue beam hit Frank directly. He described it to audiences later, said the beam opened him up like a fish. Just tore right through him. The blast burned off several fingers on his left hand, hit his chest, even burned through his shoes and damaged his toenails. Frank would have died right there in that hole if it wasn't for a Green Beret who was nearby. That soldier got Frank into an elevator and pushed the button to send him back up to the surface. But that Green Beret didn't make it out. He gave his life to save Frank.
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